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- From: gentlman@alinc.com (The Gentleman)
- Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc,alt.retromod,comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,rec.games.video.nintendo
- Subject: Re: bincancel:3 large binaries:AR160:@@NCM
- Date: Sun, 25 Feb 96 03:04:48 GMT
- Organization: White Knight Consulting
- Distribution: world
- Message-ID: <4gojkg$a10_001@ttyCa.alinc.com>
- References: <ARMM-Report-160@redpoll.mrfs.oh.us> <ARMM-Report-160.a@redpoll.mrfs.oh.us> <DnA68B.5Kz@caprica.com>
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- In article <DnA68B.5Kz@caprica.com>, jlummel@caprica.com (James Lummel) wrote:
- }Look, you better read the newsgroup charters, since several newsgroups
- }allow binaries to be posted, despite not having binaries in the name. If
- }I must, I'll have my system detect a cancel from your site and re-issue
- }the canceled article back into the stream, but understand that arbitary
- }cancelation of articles is not OK, regarless of the justification. If
- }you detect binaries, send a message to that person and to that USENET
- }admin, instead of doing brain dead censorship.
-
- This is not brain dead censorship. There are *many* sites out there
- who cannot support binaries. Disk space, bandwidth, a variety of reasons.
- When a binary is posted outside of those, it not only hurts those sites, it
- hurts the propagation of that group, because admins will just drop the group.
-
- And setting up a bot duel is a really bad idea. *Really* bad. This
- is not arbitrary, it is simply not subject to interpretation by a human. This
- is the way it should be.
- }
- }It has been a long-standing consensus among USENET Admins that a group's
- }charter is followed when determining whether an article in off-topic or
- }not, and that to cancel an article not your own is one of the lowest acts
- }you can commit on USENET.
-
- And it is an equally longstanding consensus that binaries should not
- be posted outside of the *.binaries.* heirarchies. The fact that some people
- have chosen to codify violation of that into charters is irrelevant.
-
- As an alternative, Dick could simply rmgroup every group that violates
- this. Would that be preferrable?
-
- Regards,
- The Gentleman
-
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